tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6733508189924773862.post2307400052797780369..comments2024-03-28T02:02:22.629-04:00Comments on Random Thoughts on History: "Well Shut My Mouth and Call Me Corn Pone!" The Civil War, Memory, and Looney Tunes?Tim Talbotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02184297245966915181noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6733508189924773862.post-86556687524333328542018-11-26T10:29:28.604-05:002018-11-26T10:29:28.604-05:00How about a few sources to support your "fact...How about a few sources to support your "facts".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6733508189924773862.post-70342113813518005092015-11-29T20:36:28.720-05:002015-11-29T20:36:28.720-05:00The four links have died.The four links have died.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6733508189924773862.post-39116691473967615332014-08-08T17:39:30.134-04:002014-08-08T17:39:30.134-04:00That was actually an unusually good discusionThat was actually an unusually good discusionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6733508189924773862.post-40454027226573816992010-06-22T14:59:53.318-04:002010-06-22T14:59:53.318-04:00And the lily white north of course was absolutely ...And the lily white north of course was absolutely the land of milk and honey even when they owned their slaves - which of course was the first place most were brought into the US, that wonderful "north" land.<br /><br />Now of course, if we were to ask the Irish and the Italians, and the Chinese about that wonderful Utopia known by the above commentators as "the North", we might find similar accounts as these people of color have described about black slaves.<br /><br />And so where are the books and the outrage, and the blogs and the historical corrections about them??<br /><br />or is this perhaps something to do with reconstructionist history of only one ethnicity, whose view of history is stained and tarnished by people like Louie Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright, just to name only a couple? Is their history perhaps tainted only by their attempts at revenge...because surely if it was only about correcting historical inaccuracies, these noble men and women of color would be sure to talk at length about how bad "the north" was for these other ethnicities...<br /><br />yeah, right. That'll be the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6733508189924773862.post-43787025429289902032009-11-13T17:17:54.501-05:002009-11-13T17:17:54.501-05:00Colored troops in the Civil War -- apparently this...Colored troops in the Civil War -- apparently this blog buys it.<br /><br />Talk about wishful thinking.<br /><br />No doubt there were some black men who went with their owners (officers) into battle -- or were told to go. But there were black men who helped at slave auctions -- black men who whipped the slaves per master's instructions. Black overseers were often the most feared in the South.<br /><br />So what? Let's honor the black overseers?<br /><br />The Confederate apologist are so driven to escape reality, they insist black soldiers fought WITH Confederates "side by side, with equal pay". Others insist slaves were freed by the South in 1862 - a preposterous notion, since Jeff Davis himself decreed on Jan 5 1863 that all negroes ever freed were hereby re-enslaved - "and their issue, forever". <br /><br />The Conscription Act in March of 1865 did provide for equal pay -- and to serve in regular units. But the act specically says they are STILL slaves, it does not even hint at their freedom. <br /><br />Plus, not single slave was ever processed through to be deployed in any unit. The war ended a few weeks later -- and Richmond was surrounded, then the great exodus from Richmond. <br /><br />But never mind the truth - -some want to see blacks fighting for the Confederacy, a South who just loved justice - and slave drivers who treated their slaves like family.<br /><br />All nonsense.Dan Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03600453725390655595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6733508189924773862.post-89196498549827141582009-11-13T13:21:23.946-05:002009-11-13T13:21:23.946-05:00Looks like a good intelligent blog.
I for one do...Looks like a good intelligent blog. <br /><br />I for one don't find the Civil War amusing, because to me, slavery and the Civil War were as vile as the Nazi Holocaust. <br /><br />It seems Europe has learned something from the defeat of Nazism, but much of America has yet to deal with slavery and the Civil War.<br /><br />I dont mean "blame" anyone -- I mean learn what actually happened.<br /><br /> We have not admitted that whites too were terrorized in the South - whites had no rights to free speech in the South for decades before the Civil War. White men could be - and were -- whipped and jailed for owning the wrong book.<br /><br /> Most Americans North or South have any idea there was no free speech in most of the South before the Civil War. <br /><br /> Nor were there free elections. Did you know that most Southern states simply would not allow anti -slave candidates on the ballot?<br /><br /> Lincoln was not on the ballot in 9 Southern states. It was illegal to pass out campaign literature. <br /><br /> Do most people know this? No. In fact, Confederate apologist are incensed even at the suggestion. They have no clue how oppressive government in the South had become, as it struggled to justify and defend chattel slavery. <br /><br />Until "google books" I had no idea of the evil (there is no other suitable word) that permeated the slave culture. Not all of the South fell victim to that, of course. Many honorable people lived in the South - and many hated the Confederacy and would fight against them in the Civil War - a fact almost forgotten now. <br /><br /> Ive been reading a lot on Google Books - which has many thousands of books digitized from that period.<br /><br /> Books written by Southerners right after the war, giving their view of it, written while the smoldering ruins of the war still sent smoke into the sky. <br /><br /> Books written by Jefferson Davis, speeches by almost every Confederate leader, testimony of slaves themselves.<br /><br /> You can find the laws about slaves -- how slaves could be burned to death slowly for rebelling, how many lashes could a slave get for "sassing" or making a face to a white person.<br /><br /> If there is a current available book today exposing the real horrors of slavery, and the evilness of the Confederacy - I have yet to read it. <br /><br /> For some reason, it's not politically correct to expose evil that evolved into the Confederacy.<br /><br /> Most "scholarship" and energy from the Confederacy has been devoting to minimizing the horrors of slavery -- denying that slavery was the fundamental issue in the Civil War -- or blaming people in the North for slavery. Jeff Davis' books for example.<br /><br /> It should not be about blame - it should be bout truth. <br /><br /> Maybe in another 150 years, someone will be able to describe what really happened<br /> <br /> Meanwhile -- almost all Confederate history, perhaps including this blog, is white washed to an absurd degree. Six generations have come and gone, and each new generation gets a more white washed distorted account, not less. <br /><br />So to me, nothing is funny about it. I think we should learn from our history - so we don't repeat it.Dan Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03600453725390655595noreply@blogger.com